God's judgement is reserved to Him at the end of the church age. IT IS NOT A ACT PRECIPITATED BY MAN.
You lie again. You know perfectly well that Christ did not teach 'jihad' by any man.
Rex
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The thoughts of real True Believers
by Norm inthe friday 28 issue of washington post had some very interesting information about documents found in one of the terrorist hijackers luggage.
these documents give us a good insight into the minds of religious fanatics and their thinking.
all of you other true believers, christians and otherwise, can learn a lot of true faith from those documents.
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Islamic Violence not new.....
by Rex B13 inin response to norm norwig's usual wide brush of generalization,that sweeps in all religion as causing all the problems of the world....... a prophet finds honor at last.
by cal thomas.
syndicated columnist.
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Hi Alan,
Simply put, you are a liar. You are either too stupid to understand the difference in teachings between the religious writngs or you are a liar. We all know you aren't stupid, don't we?Any comparison betweeen claimed Christians who violated the teachings of God's word and Islamic fundamentalists who are simply FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS of their own sacred writings shows your lie. Where is the 'jihad', led by man on earth, Al baby?
When are you going to quit lying about the life of Christ and the individual's resposibility to God for his actions while living on earth? You intentionally blame all Christians for the acts attributed to our basic depraved nature!
The fact that dweebs like you live in a free country and critisize the main religion in that country without fear speaks volumes to your lying slander.
Go on over to one of the 'moderate' states and spout your 'scientific and logical' nonsense (much less critisize Islamic teachings) and we'll see how quickly you shut up or leave, eh smart boy?Ah, but you were raised to be unappreciative of the deaths of Catholics and Protestants who died to keep your butt free, right Al baby? I suppose you would even march in protest of your country taking military action agains those responsible for the deaths in terrorist attacks, right?
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Islamic Violence not new.....
by Rex B13 inin response to norm norwig's usual wide brush of generalization,that sweeps in all religion as causing all the problems of the world....... a prophet finds honor at last.
by cal thomas.
syndicated columnist.
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I agree with you, Seeker.
Let's recognize some very inportant points differences. Fundametalism in Islam is extremism to us, for a central teaching of Islam is that all humans must be converted who live, or they will be killed. The public 'jihad'.
Christian fundamentalism is nowhere close to this, since the Bible has no central teaching to compare to that. We leave judgement in God's hands and depend on His mercy and justice, not our own.Israel was established under U.N. charter legally. The Islamic antions use it as an excuse for they even hate the Palestinians, though less than they hate the Jews and Christians. Islam was established by a man who never produced a miracle. He didn't follow his own laws and his follower fought and killed to rule when he died.
No, not much to compare to the apostles or Jesus' teachings, is there?
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The thoughts of real True Believers
by Norm inthe friday 28 issue of washington post had some very interesting information about documents found in one of the terrorist hijackers luggage.
these documents give us a good insight into the minds of religious fanatics and their thinking.
all of you other true believers, christians and otherwise, can learn a lot of true faith from those documents.
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You post so many of the same generalizations that it's not really worth my time to respond to them. As usual, you lie, slander and exxagerate to serve your purpose. But, I will analyze your pathetic attempt to emotionalize the issue.
The Crusades were begun by self-serving, corrupt apostates of your former church, the Catholic one. Still, they as individuals were responsible to God for their actions and false teachings. They are still paying for that today, no doubt.
There is no 'jihad' teaching in the Bible. You confuse extremism that can exist within groups claiming to be Christian and a CENTRAL TEACHING of Islam.
The Koran says that all living humans must convert or die.
Christian nations usually freely allow the practice of any religion but does not sanction secular law violators.
I've yet to see a Muslim in America get his hand cut off for theft, a woman be beaten or killed for showing some skin (by the authorities).
Sure, Christians condemn a lot of things but very few want or support a theonomy established by man. That's called "dominion theology" and it is very rarely supported in it's purest form.
Christinaity has never been about organisations or churches, those are man-made and we are to flee those that violate our consciences as true Christians. We also must take into account that all sin and fall short of Christ's example.
Where would you rather be, Miss Know-it-all, Kabul or Cleveland?
Maybe you could go over to even one of the moderate Islamic states and tell them how wrong they are for treating their women so cruelly? Nah, that would take courage and conviction.....
Forget Kabul, you would be shut up very quickly and completely.
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Islamic Violence not new.....
by Rex B13 inin response to norm norwig's usual wide brush of generalization,that sweeps in all religion as causing all the problems of the world....... a prophet finds honor at last.
by cal thomas.
syndicated columnist.
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In response to Norm Norwig's usual wide brush of generalization,that sweeps in all religion as causing all the problems of the world......
A “Prophet” Finds Honor At Last
By Cal Thomas
Syndicated columnist
September 28, 2001If there were such things as prophets in our day, as there were in ancient times, former (and perhaps future) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would be one.
Last week, Netanyahu, whose grandfather was a rabbi, was in Washington sounding vindicated. For years he has been prophesying about terrorism but few would listen. Now everybody is listening.
Netanyahu testified before the House Committee on Government Reform and later met in private with senators. What he said should be required reading for every person who loves liberty and wants to maintain it.
(Pay close attention, you who support the cause of the Palestinians)
“What is at stake today,” he warned the committee, “is nothing less than the survival of our civilization.” Three weeks ago, that would have sounded alarmist, even extreme. Not anymore. “Our values are hated with an unmatched fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life,” he said soberly.
Netanyahu knows the neighborhood in which he lives and has been personally scarred by terrorism. His brother was killed in 1976 during a commando raid he lead to free hostages from Palestinian terrorists who had hijacked a plane to Entebbe, Uganda.
Echoing President Bush, Netanyahu told the House committee that terrorism is sustained by nations, such as Syria, Iran, Iraq and Libya. “Take away all this state support and the entire scaffolding of international terrorism will collapse into the dust,” he said.
While Netanyahu spoke only of modern terrorism and gave a lesson in recent history, the fact is that Islamic terrorism has been an endemic element of the Middle East for 13 centuries. With the exception of Turkey, all modern Islamic regimes have come to power through violence. None has tolerated any challenge to its supremacy. They first terrorize their own citizens who fail to comply with the regime’s political or religious beliefs, then they terrorize outsiders, claiming a divine mandate. Equal rights, especially for women, are unknown in such nations.
(Hmmm, not even close to the situation of women in the civilized, CHRISTIAN nations, eh Norm?)
Terrorism is not an aberration, nor is it born primarily out of frustration to achieve economic parity with wealthier nations. Terrorism is a policy. It is embraced to achieve an objective its practitioners believe cannot be reached in any other way. It has nothing to do with the existence or non-existence of Israel; otherwise there would have been no terrorism in the Middle East for so long.
It matters little that a majority of Moslems have not pledged themselves to the forced implementation of radical Islam. They do not have the guns or the fanaticism of the radicals, who seek, according to Netanyahu, to “roll back the West and install an extremist form of Islam as the dominant power in the world.” It makes one long for the good old days of communism.
In a telephone conversation before returning to Israel, Netanyahu told me he sees America’s tardy recognition of the terrorist threat as “the beginning of the beginning.” He worries, though, that not everyone has gotten the message, noting the continued “pressure on Israel” to meet with Yasser Arafat, an author and promoter of the very terrorism the U.S. opposes. Netanyahu wants us to know about a “terror museum” erected at Al-Najah University, in the Palestinian West Bank city of Nablus. The grisly exhibit glorified the recent suicide bombing of a Sbarro pizza restaurant in Jerusalem.
Natanyahu says he believes most of the American public now understands what he and Israel have experienced for decades. “The liberals are smashed,” he says. “They must be quiet or join in the applause (for President Bush’s policies).” Not exactly. The “peace at any price” crowd is beginning to stir but they are less likely to be taken seriously by the public, which gives President Bush a 90 percent approval rating.
In his appearance before the House committee, Netanyahu warned, “Some of you may find it hard to believe that Islamic militants truly cling to the mad fantasy of destroying America. Make no mistake, they do. Unless they are stopped now, their attacks will continue, and become even more lethal in the future.”
That sounds like the warning of a prophet.
© 2001 TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, INC.
Just think, Norm. If one of those wonderful arab regimes has a medium range missle, tipped with a nuke and America was not interested in protecting your big butt, you could be in for a world of hurt. You and the rest of Europe.
Ah but your politicians have much better brains than you. They see the threat clearly and support America as many fellow Christians will again go in harms way to make the world safe for unappreciative little men to tap away at their computers, whining about how hateful Christians are!
You're a joke, Norm. One day your platform for spewing lies will be gone and you forgotten. When JWs go mainstream no one will care about your little vendetta against all persons of faith.
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Special Meeting - New Work Announced
by ozziepost init is reported that a special meeting has been held of all the district overseers in the usa and the new york city circuit overseers at which it was announced that the field ministry would now be changed until further notice, effective immediately.
for the time being no literature is to be offered or the suggested offer.
the publishers are to advise each householder that due to recent events we are not engaging in our regular work, we are offering comfort where needed from the bible to help cope with the tragedy.
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The Bible, interpreted in CONTEXT is not a 'fiddle you can play many tunes on' or anything such. You can spot most twisting of scripture just by reading the whole passage, sometimes you need to read several chapters or even the whole book but that's rare.
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just another religion
by teejay inpatriotism is a religion just like every other religion.
either you believie it and live it or you don't.. i see people waving the flag at sporting events, hear them mouthing the words, "we're all one nation, blah, blah, blah" but then they go out and flip one another off in the parking lot.
just like people at the kingdom hall who supposedly love jehovah (or jesus or allah) and after the meeting is over, they go right back to the way they were.. love of country is no more influential than love of god.
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You really have a broad brush of generalization, eh Miss Know-It_all?
Under 'religious zealots', you would no doubt include me and therefore I am also one who hates liberty and freedom, right? You still cannot tell the difference between (real) Christianity and Islam/cults, can you?
FREEDOM was founded amongst the largely CHRISTIAN FREE nations. It emerged directly out of the very same culture that you so despise. Those were Christians who were not afraid to take a stand, those whom you call 'zealots' now.
The great majority of deaths defending our freedoms were by Christians that took their God and their country seriously. Perhaps if you quit sniping away at the natural mistakes made by imperfect people you would see something different.
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'Lost' redux
by Rex B13 inbeing lost...is of course, the usual state of things here.
what's surprising is that they (the lost) think that pulling scriptures out of context, isolating mosaic laws mean't for one purpose and one time, is somehow refuting scripture.. they like to ignore the fact that jesus is the revealed yahweh and he sets the mark, not any organisation nor any pious individual.
we relate scripture to him and we interpret scripture by his life amongst mankind.
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Julie,
lost= without salvation.
Why do I say that? You've gotten answers that run from conservative to liberal. Not only do you disagree with them, you even deny they have been there.Alan,
Does it depress you to know that life is meaningless?Trog,
Troglobyteme.Abaddon,
( ) The contents of your brain.
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'Lost' redux
by Rex B13 inbeing lost...is of course, the usual state of things here.
what's surprising is that they (the lost) think that pulling scriptures out of context, isolating mosaic laws mean't for one purpose and one time, is somehow refuting scripture.. they like to ignore the fact that jesus is the revealed yahweh and he sets the mark, not any organisation nor any pious individual.
we relate scripture to him and we interpret scripture by his life amongst mankind.
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Outsider:
Just trying to keep the abusive types honest.Troglodyte:
Everyone here knows you are a joke. You jump on the bandwagon and begin flamewars. Besides that, you're predictable and you lack any skill at valid argumentation.
You're a piker and a schmutt.
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'Lost' redux
by Rex B13 inbeing lost...is of course, the usual state of things here.
what's surprising is that they (the lost) think that pulling scriptures out of context, isolating mosaic laws mean't for one purpose and one time, is somehow refuting scripture.. they like to ignore the fact that jesus is the revealed yahweh and he sets the mark, not any organisation nor any pious individual.
we relate scripture to him and we interpret scripture by his life amongst mankind.
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For Julie:
I don't need nor desire to be 'credible' to you, Miss Know-it-all. That's just another slant in the debate game. I just hope that some day God wakes you up. Some get awakened, some harden further.
That's what happens, 'lost' behave (and believe) like 'lost' until they finally find their way to God.
You asked for answers and you didn't like my answers, from fundamentalist to liberal, so I tried my best. Now you seem to persist in slander and exaggeration because I won't cower to your tactics. It don't work with me, so you may as well quit.
RexTrilobyte:
You're a joke and a pale imitation of your hero. Give it up.
R.Farkel & Seeker:
Thanks for the defense of my character. I do appreciate your compassion and wish you well. I am in 'salvation' and it is not a phase I will come out of. As I learn more about scripture, more becomes clear and beliefs evolve. The evolution is hard to label but with evangelicals it can be conservative to liberal, depending on how one views scripture/Christ's advent. I have wrongly accused ones by using too general terms for the individuals.
R.Jonjon,
I am here for you if ever you need something. Are you anywhere near me (Pittsburgh)? I'd like to visit you and your family. Feel free to e-mail me.
R.Siegswife,
Julie's sneering slander is very typical of her (and a few other's) posts. The altruism also seems to be a sham. She has a bone to pick and will not soon be done with it.
R.UReformer,
I stand on my beliefs. don't you wish you had some to stand on?
R.Abaddon & Sixty-nine
You're (both) a joke.
R.